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Stephen Galvan on SBA's outsourcing of financial management services

April 26, 2006 11:00 AM

Moderated by Rob Thormeyer, Staff Writer

Moderator Rob Thormeyer: Good morning everyone, and thanks in advance for participating in today's forum. We are joined today by Stephen Galvan, the Small Business Administration's chief of staff and chief operating officer, who is ready to answer your questions about SBA’s decision to outsource elements of its financial management services to the private sector. Our forum will run until noon today, and we will do our best to answer as many questions as we can. Let's get started.




Joe Barbano:

What exact accounting and budgeting functions did you outsource to the private sector? Which ones did you keep in-house?

Was your functional support of the system also outsourced? In other words, functional SME's understand the business side of the house and also the system side in order to assist users with the system. If your business processes are very similar to other agencies accounting/budgeting processes, then this is usually not an issue for a private agency to take over. However, if they are different the private agency will not be able to interact with the user community as effectively as keeping functional SME support in-house.

Please tell me what you did



Stephen Galvan:

Before I answer your question, I would like to clarify for the audience that this effort was not and is not about outsourcing. Rather, it is about leveraging best practices, infrastructure and cost-efficiencies through cross-servicing. Our approach is consistent with the administration’s E-Gov Line of Business initiative, which is designed to improve the cost, quality, and performance of financial management (FM) systems by leveraging shared service solutions.

Now to the substance of your question. We are not outsourcing accounting and budgeting functions. We continue to perform in-house the budget and accounting functions, but in 2003, we contracted out to Corio Inc. the hosting of our administrative accounting system that includes General Ledger, Accounts Payable, Accounts Receivables, and Purchasing.

We did not outsource the functional support of the system. Our direct hire staff continues to perform the functions in-house. We did, however, hire a small business to provide some functional and system support for our in-house staff.






Columbia, Maryland: Has any of this business been outsourced to small businesses and/or service-disabled, veteran-owned small businesses?

Stephen Galvan: SBA contracted with Corio to do the hosting of the systems through a full and open competitive process. The company is other than small. However, we have contracted with DSG, Inc., a small business, to provide functional and system support for our in-house staff.




Washington, D.C.: Will you be leveraging a Service Level Agreement (SLA) with specific measurements while managing the outsourcing contract?

Stephen Galvan: SBA is leveraging a Service Level Agreement with the contractor that has specific measurements.




Washington, D.C.: What is the scope of functions that you have defined for the financial management outsourcing?

Stephen Galvan: SBA is not outsourcing financial management functions. We are using cross-service provider to host our administrative accounting system.




Reston, Virginia: Will an electronic acquisition management system be one of the requirements of this overall financial management outsourcing effort? I ask because I am aware that there are small businesses that currently provide these types of IT systems to federal agencies, either as part of the financial management system or as related systems that interface. Thanks.

Stephen Galvan: At the moment, an electronic acquisition management system is not part of the existing administrative accounting system.




Bill Topolewski,VA:

1. What specific FM services (application management, business processes etc.)has SBA outsourced?

2. With the outsourcing of these services, does SBA see itself as in compliance with the Financial Management Line of Business initiative.

3. How does SBA integrated its core financial system with its of financial/mixed systems and the egov't systems (e-travel, e-payroll, CCR etc)?



Stephen Galvan: SBA is not outsourcing its functions. We are hosting through a cross-service provider our general ledger, accounts payable, accounts receivable, and purchasing. We consider our efforts to be consistent with OMB's LOB initiative. The E-gov systems mentioned (e-travel and e-payroll, not CCR) feed to our administrative accounting system.




Arnold Acker, Denton, Texas:

Is the SBA considering the outsourcing of any parts of the SBA Bond Guarantee Program to a firm, or firms, that can provide the following:

1. Uniform pre-qualification of potential contractor clients by a firm independent of the sureties writing the bonds;

2. Uniform claims handling by a single firm at established rates performed by qualified bond claims handlers;

3. Implementation of risk management tools established uniformily from the "top-down", which will allow for the underwriting of more qualified DBE contractors in the program, at greatly reduced bond losses to the program;

4. Underwriting oversight and accountability by independent and qualified surety underwriters;

5. Pre-qualification of outside legal counsel, at preferred rates, given direction by qualified claims handlers; and

6. Independent analysis of underwriting policies of surety companies, with full accountability of record keeping and periodic audits by qualified surety audit firms?



Stephen Galvan: At this time, SBA has no plans to outsource its Surety Bond application. The agency has minority firms providing systems support.




Al, Massachusetts: What impact, if any, will administrator Barreto's resignation have on this or similar programs?

Stephen Galvan: Administrator Barreto has been a great leader for SBA and small business over the past 5+ years (second longest service for an SBA Administrator) and he will be missed. The Agency will continue to implement its mandated mission and deliver effective and efficient services to small businesses and meet the President's management reform agenda.




Roger Woodhull:

Is there an interest in implementing a service that will help increase small business participation in the construction market which is typically limited by the bonding capacity? Is this a service under consideration? Who could I speak with to discuss this topic?

Roger



Stephen Galvan: SBA is dedicated to increasing to the maximum extent possible small business participation in the overall marketplace. We would suggest you contact your closest SBA district office or one of our resource partners that you can find at http://www.sba.gov/regions/states.html , http://www.business.gov or 1-800-UASKSBA




Columbus, Ohio: What types of measurements are you planning to do in light of this? To see if this is actually effective?

Stephen Galvan: SBA considers reduced costs and improved service (e.g., timeliness, accuracy, downtime) as potential measures of effectiveness.




Wilson Lesnett, Centreville, VA: How can the SBA consider outsourcing business tasks when it still can't meet and assist the true small business (15) employees in obtaining SBA and General Services Administration schedule contracts? It appears that the SBA is trying to down size for appearances.

Stephen Galvan: SBA did not outsource its business tasks, only the hosting of the systems.




Martye Karen Joyce: What is driving the decision to outsource portions of SBA's FMS and specifically what portions have you decided to outsource?

Stephen Galvan:

This is not a decision about outsourcing; it is rather about leveraging best practices, infrastructure, and cost efficiencies through cross servicing. What is driving SBA's decision is the Administration’s line of business E-Gov initiative, which is designed to improve the cost, quality, and performance of financial management (FM) systems by leveraging shared service solutions.

We are hosting our administrative accounting system that includes General Ledger, Accounts Payable, Accounts Receivables, and Purchasing.






Mary, Delaware: What steps did you take in deciding to go out to the private sector? Did you consider what services another agency could provide SBA?

Stephen Galvan: SBA decided to use a cross-service provider when it moved its Administrative Accounting function to Oracle Financials. We did not have infrastructure or resources to host and manage Oracle Financials in-house and there were no other viable cost effective solutions in the public sector at that time. In 2002-2003, SBA had discussions with two public sector agencies—the Bureau of Public Debt (BPD) and the National Business Center/NBC (Dept. of Interior)—to determine the feasibility of hosting our systems. BPD could not address SBA's needs until FY 2005 due to a backlog of work. NBC was just beginning an Oracle hosting practice and had no customers on board and minimal experience. Finally, SBA decisions to move to a cross-service arrangement was consistent with the objectives of the Presient's Management Agenda (PMA) and our focus on meeting our mission in the most cost effective manner possible.




Washington, DC: Can you talk about how this contract has helped SBA? What efficiencies have you seen and can you explicity demonstrate savings?

Stephen Galvan: SBA has always used a service provider for hosting its financial management systems. We have never performed the hosting of the administrative accounting systems in-house. Prior to using Oracle Financials, SBA was using AMS’s Federal Financial System (FFS) that was hosted at Treasury's Financial Management Service. We do not have the infrastructure, resources or expertise to host our financial management systems in-house. Compared to our prior contractor, the company that hosted Oracle Financials after we transitioned off of FFS, our contract with Corio is saving us an estimated $1 million annually.




Moderator Rob Thormeyer: That's going to do it for today's forum. Thanks to all who participated, and a special thank you to Stephen Galvan for sharing his insights with us.